SPIRIT DAILY & Anti-Catholicism

Doug,

Please let us know specifically of any anti-Catholic sites we may link to. We appreciate it.

God bless,

Michael Brown 

 

Dear Michael:

Thank you for responding to my letter in such a quick and timely fashion. First, let me apologize for the tone of my first email.  Electronic communications are cold at best, and I feel my first letter was very blunt.  However, a friend of mine told me she had written to you with similar concerns, but never received a response. Consequently, I felt it necessary to turn up the heat.  Still, I firmly believe everything we do or don’t do counts and with that I wish to apologize if my letter came across cold or un-Christian.

At any rate, I have been researching your site with some detail. Much of what I find disturbing concerns the links to “Rapture End Times” sites. I could be wrong, but my study of the rapture as well as the Catechism has led me to conclude that the “rapture” does not line up with Catholic Tradition or eschatological teachings. Secondly, much of the contemporary rapture beliefs equate the One World Church/Whore of Babylon as the Roman Catholic Church.  Consequently, when your links connect to a rapture site I believe you are stating support for that site and it’s anti-Catholic bias (if any).

I found other links on your web page carry anti-Catholic articles and anti-Catholic opinions. Typically if a linked site has a search engine I will simply type in and search for “Catholic.”  That will usually lead me to anti-Catholic material. I have copied the web addresses that I found to be anti-Catholic.  All of them were found using the links from the cover page of www.Spiritdaily.com.  

Click on Best Christian Sites: http://www.tbcl.com/directory/index.shtml and search for Catholic and you will find listed in the middle of the page:

Christian Info To Bless Believers [6] Hits    
Biblical Links to refute Jehovah's Witness, Catholic, Mormon, and other Christian cults, evolution, etc..

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[More like this]

When you click on the above it directs you to JustforCatholics.org.

Michael, I understand you do not control the links your links link to (try saying that 20’x fast!), but you do control the link listing on your web page. By linking to this type of site you send out a mixed message. Personally, I don’t know if you’re Catholic or not. The message I get from Spirit Daily is that, “you’re Catholic when it conforms to your personal conclusion about the end times and you’re Protestant when Catholic teaching/Tradition does not conform to your opinions.” At least, that’s the impression I and other Catholics are receiving from your web site. But let’s continue… 

Click on the Billy Graham link and search the word Catholic. This is what I found:

“When Jesus said he would build His church on a "rock" (Matthew 16:13-18), what was He referring to?

Matthew 16:13-18 has been the focus of a great deal of theological discussion, especially concerning Jesus' words to Peter, "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church" (verse 18). The question concerns who or what Jesus intended as the foundation of His church. That Jesus is referring to Himself as the "rock" has been widely held by evangelicals; see 1 Corinthians 3:11. Another interpretation is that Jesus is referring to the truth of Peter's confession in verse 16, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Still another view suggests that He is referring to Peter who, along with the early apostles and prophets, was used to establish the church; see Ephesians 2:19-22. In this latter passage Christ is pictured as the cornerstone, which in an ancient building supported the main weight of the structure, while the apostles and prophets share in the foundation. To see Peter as one of the foundation stones of the church would not, of course, require that he be viewed as an ecclesiastical authority with successors down through the ages. He would simply be the first confessor of who Christ is.

Perhaps Mr. Graham's words in his book PEACE WITH GOD would be helpful. He writes on page 179: "The word church as applied to the Christian society was first used by Jesus Himself when He told Peter, 'Upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it' (Matthew 16:18, [KJV]). Thus Jesus Christ Himself founded the church. He is the great cornerstone upon which the church is built. He is the foundation of all Christian experience, and the church is founded upon Him."

Now, as a well-grounded Catholic I can read this without worry or ripple. I have studied my faith and am secure. Can the same be said of all your readers? Can you guarantee every Catholic searching your site will not stumble from what you link him to?

But wait, don’t answer that just yet…there’s more…

Dial The Truth:

http://www.av1611.org/search1.html

http://www.av1611.org/kjv/handbok.html#Mass

Mass

The Mass is a Roman Catholic perversion of the Lord's Supper where members take part in a pagan ritual--actually attempting to eat and drink the literal flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. This is strictly forbidden in the word of God (Gen. 9:4; Lev. 17:11-14; Psalm 16:4; Acts 15:29).

After linking to this site Prophecy Central http://www.bible-prophecy.com/pcu4.htm listed on your web page I then did a search for Catholic. This led me to another site http://www.bible-prophecy.com/links.htm and then (http://www.users.qwest.net/~lorield/endtime_prophets/ecumen.html) where I quickly discovered the following under false teachers:

Other groups are not only joining up with such non-Christian organizations as the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) but members of the RCC are in key positions of leadership in some of these organizations, such as the Billy Graham Evangelical Association. Before I get accused of Catholic bashing let me state that I believe there are many born-again believers in the RCC but the official Catholic dogma is totally against the orthodox Christian belief in "saved by Grace through faith, not by works" and, in fact, it is the "official" position of the RCC to consider anyone anathema who believes such.
"If anyone says that after the reception of the grace of Justification the guilt is so remitted and the debt of eternal punishment so blotted out to every repentant sinner, that no debt of temporal punishment remains to be discharged either in this world or in purgatory before the gates of heaven can be opened, let him be anathema" (The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, Session 6, Canon 30. Shroeder, H.J., Tan Books, 1978, p. 46. The Council of Trent was reaffirmed by Vatican I & II --1960)

The RCC also holds that it is the only means of salvation:
"There is one holy Catholic and apostolic church, outside of which there is no salvation . . . . it is altogether necessary for salvation for every creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."(Unam Sanctam AD 1302)
"This holy Council teaches . . . that the Church . . . is necessary for salvation. . . . Hence, they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it, or to remain in it"(Austin Flannery, Vatican Council II, 1988, vol. 1, pg 365, 366).

Vatican II is still in effect today, and the Pope has not changed his stand on one iota of it no matter what he says to the press when trying to supposedly promote ecumenicalism. This can be easily proven by a recent article published on September 5, 2000, by Ruth Gledhill, from the The-Times in the United Kingdom entitled, Carey [the Archbishop of Canterbury] Rebukes Vatican over "Improper" Slur where Gledhill indicates the Vatican, approved by the Pope issued the following official statement:
The declaration, approved by the Pope, effectively condemns all post-Reformation Churches. It says: "Ecclesial communities that have not preserved the valid Episcopate and the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic mystery are not Churches in the proper sense."
The Vatican document, Declaration Dominus Iesus, also states that the followers of non-Christian religions are "gravely deficient" and their rituals "an obstacle to salvation."

There you have it folks. Everyone who has been buying into the supposed welcoming of all religions into the RCC under the false guise of ecumenical unity, have just stepped into the RCC false gospel spider web.

 Lori Eldridge
 April 30, 2000.

As I mentioned above, many of your linked sites are connected to rapture beliefs and prophesy. The link above and Prophetic News, http://www.harpazo.net/news.html are just a few that promote the rapture. 

Site Prophecy Events, http://www.aplus-software.com/thglory/ has an article called, “The Church is not the Church.” Although not blatantly anti-Catholic it argues against a visible authoritative Church,  “Indeed the truth is that the church we see is NOT the CHURCH of the Most High. The true ecclesia has remained hidden…”

Next, the Prophecy Guide link takes you on a scary journey regarding the end times that just don’t jive with Catholic teaching. I’m not saying we’re not in the “end times,” I am saying Prophecy Guide needs an authoritative guide. It’s clear they reject Traditional Catholic teaching. They also list Pope John Paul II as a typical candidate for the anti-Christ http://www.prophecyupdate.com/all_hell_breaks_loose.htm

They don’t support the accusation outright, but they don’t deny it either.

Why do you link to Hal Lindsey? http://www.hallindseyoracle.com.  The propaganda from this guy is scary and dangerous.  I do not know of any contemporary Catholic theologian or Professor who would even remotely recommend this man or any of his teachings.

Spiritual Counterfeits: http://www.scp-inc.org/ doesn’t scream anti-Catholicism but the titles regarding a One World Church does.

Other links, such as TBN, do not have search engines, but are of suspicious theology.

At this point Michael it is taking me too much time to research this any further. Yes, there are good Catholic sites linked to by Spirit Daily, but bad ones and the poor ones do a lot of damage.  I believe in being Ecumenical but never at the compromise of Truth. Please do yourself, your site, your Faith, your God a favor and remove the anti-Catholic sites from Spirit Daily.

May the Peace of Christ be with you always,

Doug Sparkes
Pugetsoundcatholic.com

 

 

From: M Brown
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:37:47 EDT

Fear not. I'm as Catholic as you are, and I go to an old-fashioned Mass every
day. You're right: we can't be responsible for the links from links, and no,
I don't agree with the Rapture, nor some other ideas.

But we believe our readership is mature enough to discern for itself, and
frankly we have received very very few complaints in the thousands of e-mails
we have received. Catholics clue into the Catholic sites. They realize we
don't endorse all views. And even if we had only Catholic links, there are
problems with those too (such as those that follow demonic apparitions, or
who in their traditionalism go to a far extreme and become hostile and even
nasty toward other sites). We are called above all to love.

However, if you find any DIRECT link that calls the Pope names, or
criticizes the Catholic Church, please let me know. Our philosophy is to
follow John Paul II's call to ecumenism; he said two months ago to "open a
dialogue" with other denominations. Can you imagine what some would say if we
visited a mosque?
He doesn't agree with Muslim philosophy but is opening up communication, and
we note an encouraging trend among some major Protestant sites of accepting
Tradition and purgatory.
God bless and thanks for the feedback, which I will further review.
In Christ and His blessed mother,
Michael Brown

Hi Michael,
Well, it sounds like you are walking a tight rope here. I'll continue to pray for your success. It sounds like your approach to Ecumenism is much braver than mine! But then again, I'm sometimes called a Catholic snob :) which may be true.

I guess my only advise, if you don't mind my giving it, is that you continue to pray for discernment. I certainly am not in any position to say what you should or should not do with your web site. You state, "...we believe our readership is mature enough to discern for itself..." Well, in my case that is certainly true. It's also true for the other Catholics I generally associate with, but...

...recently a gal in my office tried to prove to me that Catholicism was in error. Fortunately she was open to the Apologetic material I provided in Catholic defense. Consequently she's now converting to Catholicism. Still, she was quite shocked to discover that Catholics do not embrace the rapture. She has many questions because that brand of end time theology has been deeply rooted in her psyche and Christian upbringing.

So my concern is that because she is not a "mature Catholic" (in a theological sense) she might be scandalized (that's an extreme word and I mean it in a weak sense) by Spirit Daily links. The links may suggest to her that eschatology is open to personal interpretation. In other words, she may conclude Hal Lindsey is right about the Rapture and Catholics are right about the Eucharist. I believe this kind of mixed message is more potentially detrimental than it is ecumenical.
I'm not telling you to change as much as I am asking that we both continually pray for discernment.

The Ecumenical connection is very important, but ultimately the Truth must upheld. Still, how do we open doors to our separated brethren if we ourselves are actually holding the door shut? As I said before, I think you are walking a tightrope, but let me add I believe it's an important rope to try to walk.

Alan Keyes was recently asked about how to evangelize Protestants. Alan's response was surprising. He answered by saying we should not evangelize Protestants. We should not even try. Instead we need to evangelize Catholics. If Catholics convert to the fullness of their faith the world will change and that will evangelize Protestants.

Thank you for your timely response.

May Christ's peace be with you always

Doug Sparkes